Jun 06

Ollie 5 to switch revert 9!

We wanted to share with you a killer new trick. James has been working on a number of new tricks for this contest season this summer. As we’ve been mentioning we have drastically changed the shape of James’ Flyboy to afford him greater control while revert and during surface spins.

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The lovely and talented Pam!

Watch this unedited clip of James Walker landing another amazing combination. It starts with an air reverse, grabbed ollie 3 and then an ollie 5 to a switch revert surface 9!!! Then wraps it all up with a bottom turn to surface reverse, air 180 to surface 5, blender and a front big spin attempt.  On that front big, you can see that james got the board to do the 3 shuv and he landed back on the board switch stance, but it sort of spun way out of control coming down the wake.

That 1440 broken up into the ollie 5 and then a switch revert 9 is truly amazing! We’ll be talking more about the shaping changes that give James this level of control in future Flyboy Wakesurf blog posts, you NEED this board! Well, if you are an advanced level rider, you’ll need this board in ’14. If you are visiting us from your mobile device or prefer to watch the wakesurf video on your YouTube channel, use the link!

Now, lets break that down a little. You saw the 1440 comprised of the 5, then the revolutions are stopped! After the pause, James Walker resumes and completes a switch revert 900! Stopping the rotation midway around is ridiculously hard, but then starting it back up!!!! The hardest thing you’ve ever seen. Stop for a moment and think how hard it is for you to do a 3 or maybe your 7. Now think of stopping that and adding another 7 on top of it! Let’s give credit where it’s due. James Walker is just an amazing talent and the wake behind our Supreme V226 is unrivaled, you’ll NEVER see tricks like this behind an Enzo or a Zed series. However, underlying that is the revised shaped that James Walker is riding for ’13 and that you’ll see in ’14. Greater control and literally effortless surface rotations…well that’s an overstatement, but the design does make surface rotations, tighter and easier for James. AND, there is an exceptional increase in control from the nose when the Flyboy Wakesurf board is revert.

Channels for control purposes, are stupid, they literally act as additional fins and lock up whichever end they are on. If you’re looking for HIGHER performance and not just hype, you need this shape for ’14.

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Thanks so much for following along, we appreciate it!  We have a few more wakesurf tricks we hope to share over the next week or so, be sure to check back.

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Jun 05

Surf style front shuv to…

Right? A surf style front shuv has to exit out with something. The most common is a revert backside surface 180 (is there anything more boring than that? Maybe a wakesurf contest, but not much else!) But as you saw in the shuv based trick yesterday, James has the ability to rotate both frontside and backside out of those tricks that leave the board revert. So, we need different names so we don’t end up with that stupid ollie 180 situation.

Have you ever heard someone say that a particular wakesurf board pearls too easily? As if the wakesurf board had a mind of it’s own and was burying the nose behind their back. A wakesurf board is an inanimate object, it doesn’t do ANYTHING, the rider does it all. So the correct phrase becomes, I am not skilled enough to keep the nose of that board out of the water and need a board with more nose rocker or that is less responsive in the environment I ride. What a refreshing idea, personal responsibility and ego checked at the door!  The take away though is that there is misinformation presented in the statement, colored by the persons ego as well as lack of specific knowledge.  AND that is ignoring the spammers who intentionally try and mislead you.

That isn’t to say that a wakesurf board doesn’t contribute to the riders ability to do things, just that it’s the riders ability that dictates if the board can be used to it’s capacity.

Now, for the sequence shots and again, we’ve made the entire set available in our Flyboy Wakesurf Flickr album, for those competitors that can’t develop your own tricks.

The entry into the front shuv is much shallower, go back and look at the entry to the shuv from yesterday and it will become evident.

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At the top of the wake you can see the board is almost sideways as James starts the rotation. It’s a little hard to see, but james twinzer’ish fin pods are way forward, so they are actually out of the water at this point and only the tail is sliding through the water. As we’ve mentioned in the last few posts, we heavily modified the Flyboy That James is riding, both at the nose and the tail and one of the things we’ve worked on is this area where the tail is slicing through the water. We wanted shaped the edges to create lift and to grab the lifting forces of the wake when perpendicular to the wake. You have to ignore all the talking heads with the “push” nonsense and also that crap about channeling prop wash to improve the wake. Those folks are clueless, not only on wake formation, but wakesurfing in general. When you hear it, immediately think snake oil salesmen and move on.

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In this picture you can see the board is almost fully around and James rear leag is really extended to get the wakesurf board around.

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James got a little far away from the wake than he prefers, but you can see the board is revert and he is hopping it back into the wake!

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And you can see the rather unsightly surface 180 is complete, again a tad far away from where James wanted to be, but he made it.

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…and now 7.5 minutes of pumping! Had James been a little closer in this part wouldn’t have been necessary. :)

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Back in

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We want to take a few minutes and talk about the misinformation that folks use to sell boats or to get free boats, plus all the other nonsenseical advertising and spamming crap that gets spewed. The wakes we surf have their power in lift. There is nothing in the way of pushing or forces from the back of the wake forward. There can be gravitational forces as you slide down a secondary wake. If your boat is pushing 10,000 pounds of hull, gas, engine, ballast and people, it had better have a fairly sizeable secondary wake, but that secondary wake is also lifting and is often a function of a rather inefficient hull design, in terms of wakesurfing.

As you are driving forward, whether it be with the nose or the tail of your board, the predominant forces acting on that board are from the bottom lifting up. It is NOT like an airplane wing which slices through stationary fluid (air) where the shape of a wing can create high and low pressure areas.

Do you ever remember the old vacuum cleaner displays at places like Sears? They reversed the air flow and then balanced a beach ball on the stream of air. The ball would sort of bounce or flow on that strea, of air. As it extended out the forces of gravity would would become LARGER than the forces of the air from the vacuum cleaner and the ball would fall down slightly UNTIL the force of the air stream became greater than the forces of gravity. That is the beach ball got closer to the source of the air flow.

That’s wakesurfing. No channeling effects, no pushing from behind, no venturis or focused prop wash. Lifting forces and gravity, what we do is balance between them.

BUT you need to erase all the crap and then think about the orientation of your board when it is in the wake. If you want to slide it through the wake, how would you shape it knowing that the strongest force is going to be underneath? Would you want the edge of your board, in that area, to look like a shovel turned sideways? Like you were trying to scoop a bunch of the water flowing upward? Well maybe you do, we’ve seen some crazy shapes and designs out there. BUT, if what you wanted was to slice through that water and flow, you’d probably have better luck if you tuned the blade of the shovel 90 degrees and sliced through it with the thin edge of the blade. Like a knife. PUSH would dictated a different design altogether.

Stay tuned as we bring you more about the changes in the shape of this new Flyboy Wakesurf board.

Thanks so much for following along, we really appreciate it.

 

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Jun 04

Surf style shuv to revert, frontside surface 180

Oh man, we hate that descriptor, that long drawn out trick name that includes not only the direction of the rotation, but the orientation of the trick and aerial or surface. BLAH! It needs a name! Shuv you in the front! Or something, these ridiculous sanitized descriptors are just wrong! Revert, frontside, surface 180. It almost sounds hermetically sealed to avoid any sort of contamination with REALITY!

Anyway, we wanted to share this set of sequence shots with you as James Walker lands a surf style shuv, but the exit from that shuv. Once the shuv is landed, the wakesurf board is revert and James is standing regular, but unlike a skim style board, a surf style board can’t really be ridden revert for any considerable period of time. Some, but not all day. The normal exit from this trick is a continued backside rotation, as the board has some momentum and the fins typically get caught by the wake and pulled around.

In this sequence of pictures, James stops that surface rotation, preventing the fins from grabbing and then muscles the board back around frontside! So there is an above the lip backside rotation and a surface frontside rotation! Talk about your variety! Air, surface, frontside and backside…this trick has it all. We’ll only be presenting a few of the pictures, if you’d prefer to see them all, or you’re a fellow competitor and need to copy James’ tricks, we’ve included all of the sequence shots, in our Flyboy Wakesurf album, that way you don’t have to be bothered with being original!!!!!

Here is the normal loft into a surf style shuv

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Kicking the board around

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Landing from the shuv, but being careful with the rotation. It comes up “short” in terms of the shuv rotation.

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You can see James is spotting where he wants the wakesurf board to go, so his eyes are forward and not heading back over his trailing shoulder. Also, over the coming months we’ll be talking about some of the changes in the shape of this Flyboy Wakesurf board. It’s designed to give James a great deal of control from the nose, when the board is ridden revert and doesn’t hang up in rotations. TONS of testing and R&D in this area and something you’ll not find anywhere else, but with Flyboy.

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In the following pictures, it’s become evident how James is rotating the wakesurf board frontside. He doesn’t have the benefit of the fins, just the newly shaped nose and rails, plus his ridiculous talent!

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It’s hard to see the wakesurf board, but you can see how James’ body orientation has changed, with the frontside rotation.

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Bringing it home

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Be sure to check back here at the Flyboy Wakesurf site so that you can see what the other riders will be copying to add to their tricks. James Walker and Flyboy Wakesurf will always lead the way, we’d guess you’d rather lead than be an also ran, too.

As we mentioned, this new shape is a rather distinct deviation from all of the previous Flyboy’s over the years and we’ll be introducing you to those elements over the coming months. You’ll want to look for this new model in 2014, as the changes will help you improve your riding, from control while revert to virtually effortless backside surface rotations. It will eclipse all prior versions of the Flyboy Wakesurf board.

Thanks so much for following along, we really appreciate it!

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Jun 03

Surf style, skim style built wakesurf board

So what’s the one thing you miss most in a skim style board, if you like that construction. Fins, right?

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No more.

It’s not quite a simple route a hole and go, process like it is with EPS, but it’s not all that hard. Quite frankly, if you’re a backyard explorer…look into this foam and construction, also. It’s wayyyy easier.

In this picture you can see we’ve used a standard Futures router jig and there is foam all around, we didn’t poke through the deck or the like.

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The picture above was taken after we had test fitted the box, you can see the slots cut for the raised webs reinforcements. THAT we had to mostly do by hand. We pushed the box into the foam, to leave the marks and the cut into the foam with a razor and a thicker knife blade.  This foam is much denser and stronger than EPS, so it resists the little webs being pushed in.  With EPS, finger pressure rips into the foam, but this stuff requires cutting and digging.

This picture is the second test fitting, to made sure the box was below the surface of the bottom of the wakesurf board.

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Now this is an interesting picture. You’ve probably heard that EPS is basically water tight with the “superfused” blanks. That’s bull. THIS stuff is closed cell, so you need to cut back on the amout of resin you use to glue in the boxes, when you sink it in the wet out hole, it doesn’t push any into the foam, it all comes out the top!!!!

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All done!

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We’ll be taking it out for a spin today, Sunday, and hopefully we’ll have some pictures and video for you to take a look at later in the week. Now, we know that there are folks that are saying ONLY EPS can be used for a surf style board and it reminds us of that dissonance theory discussion. There are folks that often say a board pearls and that always makes us laugh. A wakesurf board doesn’t do SQUAT! It’s YOU that makes it pearl. You don’t have the ability to ride it, take some personal responsibility and say, I am too lazy a rider so I need a slower less responsive wakesurf board. There are tons available, trust us!  Back to the point, foam is foam.  There is all manner of misleading information about what wakesurf boards do or don’t do.  Like the concept of float.  While our tiny little boards do float without a rider, add 1 rider and they sink to the depths of your PFD.  Bouyancy, just isn’t a factor like it is for ocean boards.  Recognize that you’ve seen, with your own eyes, skim style boards boosting and lofting out of the water with ease.  EPS isn’t the only foam that can make that happen!

Thanks so much for following along, we really appreciate it.

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Jun 01

Dissonance theory

Are you familiar with dissonance theory? Actually, it’s the theory of cognitive dissonance. This theory of cognitive dissonance in social psychology proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance by altering existing cognitions, adding new ones to create a consistent belief system, or alternatively by reducing the importance of any one of the dissonant elements.

We’ve all done this. So when a friend says did you need those fox fur trimmed tires? We say something like, well it will help with resale value. Or some other stupid thing. Or something like well that ONE event/episode doesn’t count, so I can ignore it. The best example we’ve ever read: I’m not the kind of person who allows smooth-talking salesmen to get the better of him, but somehow I seem to have ordered 1000 leather business cards; naturally, I’m troubled by the dissonance. There’s no way out of this without having to admit to myself and others that in fact I am all too susceptible to basic techniques of persuasion, so instead: the very next time someone presents me with their own card, I feel scorn for the pitiful rectangle of paper I’ve just been handed.  Right?  We’ve all done it and if you haven’t ;) you know of someone who does.

Still makes us laugh. Some folks are more practiced at it and will surround themselves with weak people that will admire the leather business cards rather than be direct and say; wtf? They’ll do anything to avoid that dissonance.

As the theory goes; this starts a process of entrapment – action, justification, further action, further justification – that increases our intensity and commitment, and may end up taking us far from our original intention or principles.

There is an extrapolation to an error averse community or culture. We’d think that if our community was error averse, folks would be more careful and NOT make mistakes, but dissonance theory says the exact opposite occurs. By living in such a community, when errors or failures occur, they are justified, not as errors but as proper steps and appropriate behavior or judgement.

We, tend to like to share all of the stuff we do. The sloppy working conditions, or when we do work under the large banyan tree :) Ok, it’s not, it’s a Maple or something, but it is shady! Or videos when James misses a trick, we show it rather than what becomes the acceptable practice of editing the fall out so that you are LEAD to believe it was landed. To a large degree, remaining true to our principles is more important to us than what some folks think. Especially those sliding heavily down that self-justification slope.

There is a saying in the boxing world. One money fight, ends your amateur career…or something to that effect. If you don’t apply that consistently, uniformly and clearly, you’re really lying. But it’s funny to see how folks justify it to develop their own intended results…cheating, quite frankly.

Ok so we said all of that, to bring us to the construction of this newest wakesurf board. We’ve show you that we are way further along than we’ve documented but we want to, slowly, bring everyone up to speed.

One of the things that most skimmers do in their construction, is they bend in the shape during construction. The final structure is significantly stiff, so the pre-tensioned core is probably safe in terms of returning to it’s original shape – FLAT. A better way would be to thermoform the core into the desired shape, but BENDING really reduces the cost and time of construction and the difference in the longevity of the final product or the ride is immaterial, so might as well save the money!

Normal surf style construction mills the shape from a slightly larger block of foam. EPS foam is now consistently molded to the general shape of the board. This reduces waste considerably and also creates a more uniform blank both in the material used, but also the lack of pre-tension in the final product. For this build, we’ve opted out of that method, instead bending in the rocker. we’ve always bent in the curve of the outline for our rail material, we’re taking it a step further and bending in the rocker. In effect there is a three dimensional bending taking place.

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Yep, we’re working in the great out-of-doors! :) As you can see in that picture, the rail material is comprised of 3 layers of 1/4″ strips. Those strips are straight and not cut to the shape of the rocker. In the past, we have cut the rocker shape into them. For this build, all curves are bent…outline and rocker. It significantly reduces waste and labor. As you can imagine, cutting six strips of material using a table saw set at the thickness of the core of the board is significantly easier than using the rocker. Plus alignment during glue-up is so much easier.

We apply resin to the individual pieces and the exposed edge of the core, using a paintbrush

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Next we tape the whole side together as a unit, this allows us to align the nose. We’ve also trimmed the first two layers to the proper length, so they matched at the tail. The final layer didn’t quite meet at the end, because we are using a section of material that isn’t quite long enough!!!!

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Lather, rinse, repeat! We do both sides and then it’s ready for the vacuum bag

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Inside the bag and the vacuum pulled. If you look closely you can see then slight gap at the back of the board in that third layer of material. Also, this whole project went into the bag FLAT and we are bending in the shape.

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Definately a different construction methodology for surf style wakesurfers. Thanks so much for following along, we really appreciate it!

 

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May 31

Different

We thought we’d share the graphic we are doing on the latest R&D wakesurf board that we are building. This is the one that we are using the various techniques employed mostly in the skim style arean to build a surf style board. So first off the resin art.

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Kinda different, huh? We’ll give you the process and then editorialize some. The base color, of orange, is used to laminate the fiberglass to the structure. We used two parts yellow pigment to one part red pigment to get to that color. Up close there is a slight speckeled effect with the yellow pigment. Once we had the fiberglass all stuck down we applied the green. What we did was take an empty resin bucket and drilled 3 randomly spaced holes in the bottom. Then in a second bucket we mixed the resin and the green pigment. We then poured a generous amount into the bucket and waved it all over the curing laminate. We REALLY thinned out the resin so that once it flowed through the holes and hit the surface it would flow out flat. The only issue is that the vertical side of the rails are left pretty thin in terms of color.  A very different effect from the more common resin swirls and paint.

Very different non-traditional and the colors, orange and green and non traditional to a wakesurf board.

There is an old song that contains the line “Wisdom cannot be confused by freedom”. We don’t mean to intimate that this resin art is wise or progressive or anything else, other than different. We’ve found that folks that are overly controlling are terrified and will go through all manner of gyrations to retain control, or banish those who don’t fall in line.

But freedom in expression and to experiement with things can lead to some startling new discoveries or effects. Often times refined by other more skilled folks.

We look back on the progression in surf style fin pods. We tested a set of nubsters as trailers in a quad set up. We didn’t particularly care for it, it induced drag and didn’t really add any noticeable benefits. But also during that time there was a dramatic hue and cry about quads being the ONLY true surf style board. Today, we can’t think of a too many pro riders that are still using a full on quad. Virtually all use some form of modified trailer fins or have added canards to overcome the drag. We have to laugh because the twinzer/c-5 that we developed here at Flyboy Wakesurf is actually used in ocean surfboards and the modifed quads aren’t!!!!

So we told you so!!! and it’s good to know that all of those folks were merely seeking competitive advantage through regulation, rather than embracing any sort of progression they sought to prevent it. Everyone is riding better when allowed to be different and THAT is certainly good for the sport.  Riders and suppliers alike.

It’s crazy wild out of control and there are little terrified cliques that quake over that, but “wisdom isn’t confused by freedom”. Often times, different paths and techniques lead to failures, and lessons learned, but also to innovation and progression.

Like it or not, is NOT the critical issue, being different and exploring with the focus on improving or progressing is…even though that scares the crap out of some folks, it’s good in the end for the vast majority.

Thanks for looking at our artwork! Our boat is still out of commissiion, not sure we’ll have it working for the weekend, so we may be stuck with building topics for the next few weeks!  We’ll see if we have any unused wakesurf videos from prior sessions!

 

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May 30

Another GoPro Video

This GoPro Video one is up close and personal. We took it with an extension pole and the setting at 1080 and the lens, we think, was medium rather than that strange wide angle lens. The wide angle really distorts the image dramatically. Here is that video of James Walker wakesurfing his Flyboy, landing a few aerials, an ollie 7 and then that whirly-gig 5 that James is working on.

One of the stills from that session or there abouts.

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…and here is that GoPro Video

If you are visiting us using a mobile device, or prefer watching James Walker Wakesuring as captured by a GoPro video, there is the link!

…and a hauling bottom turn, while we are at it.

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Thanks so much for following along we really appreciate it and hopefully we’ll come up with a better trick name than the whirly-gig 5!

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May 29

Call them names!

Currently wakesurf trick recognition in competitive wakesurfing is a convoluted mess. It started with this concept that all individual components would be named. Which makes sense if there are no combined tricks that exist afterwards. So something like the widowmaker, which is an air 3 into a surface 3, would lose it’s moniker and hence forth always be an air 3 into a surface 3. Kinda sterile, but it makes sense, until you recognize an alley-oop, which is an unidentified trick composed of an ollie 180, then into a switch revert surface 180. To be consistent and for that whole non-naming process to work there can’t be an ollie 3, or a surface 3 for that matter, it would need to be a backside ollie 180 into a backside switch revert surface 180. The reason behind that really is the indecision. Wait, wait, wait…the backside ollie 180 into a switch revert frontside surface 180. BECAUSE that takes the first half of an alley-oop and changes it, creating a new trick, which wasn’t ever named. Now you can start to see some of the conflicts and the lack of fore thought here. A switch, revert, backside 360 surf style is CRAZY hard! And if a rider is stalling that ollie 3, they damn well better be awarded the switch revert backside 3 and if they aren’t…what’s your agenda there Mr. Chief Judge? But also, doesn’t a surface 3 really exist? As a single fluid trick? Where is the definition, where is the general acceptance? It can’t be two old farts in a boat with Narcissitic Personality Disorder devloping that! Whichs seems to be how we got to where we are today!

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We want you to watch the second trick in this video that James’ attempts. It’s an ollie 3 into an indecision…wait! an ollie 180 into a switch revert backside surface 360 into a switch revert frontside surface 180. WHAT???!!!! A surf style switch revert backside surface 360!!!!! Is that how it should be called, because that’s ridiculously hard! Or does it become an ollie 180 into a switch revert backside surface 180 into a backside surface 180 and then finally a switch revert frontside surface 180. Right? There can never be a surface 360, because that’s a combination of two building blocks.

If you are visiting us on your mobile device or prefer to watch the new wakesurf trick on your YouTube Console, there’s the link.

180 to 180? Really? But without that the naming convention will always be a convoluted mess. Some tricks will be recognized and called as a single unit and others will be this ridiculous rambling of nouns and adjectives. James didn’t quite land that trick, but obviously he can, he created that surface indecision. So you are out on the boat and James nails that trick. One of your buddies is sitting next to you and says: WHAT?! What was that? Let’s say that James has been calling it a whirly 5 all day. Do you call it a whirly 5? or An Ollie 3 into a Indecision or do you do this:

That was an ollie 180 into a switch revert backside surface 180 into a backside surface 180 concluding with a switch revert frontside surface 180

Right? You’re NEVER in a million years are going to use that last naming construct. Maybe that works as the definition somewhere, but you’ll never ever use it. In fact we dare you to even repeat it correctly, without reading it! Now imagine you are on a boat judging someone, are you going to write down? No, you can’t possibly. Will you call it accurately? No, probably not because you’ll just remember it as “wow some above the lip and surface spins, back and forth and back again.

Plus we’ll NEVER get other sports to follow along with us.  So a backside big spin will never be called a backside 3 shuv with a simultaneous frontside body varial. It’s a backside big spin and in wakesurfing we’ll always call it that too…so we’ll always have a convoluted MESS unless start we consistently calling them names!

Anyway, it’s time to change from that archaic and ineffective naming convetion as wakesurf tricks become more complicated and involved. Fairness, consistency and convience!!!! dictate that change.

While we’re here, we thought we’d share a few clips from James Walker landing another surf style front shuv. You should be able to double click on any of the pictures, below, and be taken to the Flyboy Wakesurf album for the front shuv. Here is the link to that wakesurf trick.

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Is this the nastiest revert landing you’ve ever seen, or what?

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All downhill from there.

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Thanks so much for following along, we really appreciate it! We’ve been editorializing like crazy, first new wakesurf construction and now call things names!

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May 28

Why this construction is going to put you out of business

Ok, maybe not but there is a threat from the bigger guys developing a legitimate surf style board using their current materials and methods. If you’re a traditional shaper with all of your resources invested in EPS, it may be time to look into alternative construction techniques. If you’re a consumer, reading this, you might find this post interesting, but we are followed by most of the shapers, this post is directed to those folks.

So if you are shaping EPS you’re probably envious of the profit margins that skimmers make. They can use polyester resin, route the shape and the cost of the material is about half of your blank, they work with flat stock and bend the shape in. Plus no post cure, and ALL of the work is done in house, by semi-skilled labor. Luckily, the big skim style builders and wakeboard manufacturers are lazy when it comes to breaking into the surf style market.  But, nobody thinks the folks at Phase 5 or Victoria can’t figure it out. They are focusing on their existing construction methods. Stupid-ass wakeboard fins, it’s lazy but it’s probably in line with their market segment. BUT, how long will all of those folks be content to grab 80% of the market and NOT 100%? This board, will show you how to build a legitimate surf style board using the same bending methods and Divinycell flat stock that the skim manufacturers use.

Let’s first of all show some of the things that have been keeping you safe from the bigger guys taking away your surf style market.

Soft rails – check, note that’s tucked.

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More of the tucked rail and also a wing

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Domed deck

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It’s hard to see, but there’s a 3/16″ single concave on the bottom.

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Tapered nose and some on the tail

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That’s a surf style board, isn’t it? We’ll slap in some futures fin boxes, because we have the thickness, it’s around 1.5 inches thick, and we could go close to 2 if we needed. All from flat stock Divinycell, using the same basic construction methods all skim style manufacturers use.

We were dismayed at a post from a young shaper making a blank run. $70 for the blank and even with 4 up boxing it’s $30 to $40 per unit for shipping and then you have to get it to the CNC to get it cut and shipped back to wherever you’re getting it glassed. And it’s FRAGILE. I got all of the material for this at my local Composites One store. EVERY large industrial community has a wholesale stores that sells everything needed, well except the fin boxes. AND it all ships in flat boxes or mailing tubes, if you don’t want to run across town. But if you’re driving to SoCal, how much lost revenue is that? Or what is your hourly wage, if you’re driving 20 hours to get direct materials?  Even if you’re picking up 40 blanks. We can get get enough material to make 40 units in the back of a pickup truck, only using 10 inches of depth. Literally, 1 person can carry it from the store to the truck. In our little community of Stockton, CA, there are 3 local stores that carry all of the materials.  AND there are no wholesale outlets for surf blanks, here. What if you’re in Kansas City?  What’s the likelihood that there is ANY surf blank wholesaler within 1,000 miles?  None, right?  We just did a quick Google Search and there is a Composite One wholesaler in that community, plus about 10 other wholesalers that carry the materials.  That’s about 11 suppliers and we couldn’t find one single surf blank supplier, there.

They are composites stores, not Lowes or the like and there is a sales force from the manufacturer that will knock on your door and take your order. Delivered directly to your shop via common carrier, at a cost that you’re paying for 1 blank. Do you know why the skim board manufacturers are using this stuff? Low cost and convience are some of the reasons. AND it’s in your community, or the largest industrial community close to you, not ONLY in Oceanside, CA.  AND these composites stores, laminating foam is what they DO.  They have a gazillion products JUST for that purpose.

This board is still light weight, this will finish up at right around 5 pounds. No denting, the skins are 5 pound density and the core is 3 pound density. ALL of it is stronger and more durable than any blank that you can buy. It’s all closed cell, no water absorption, period. No heel dents, ridiculously resistant to dings. Aftermarket Futures fins, no heat or delamination issues. None of those funky wakeboard fins and it’s shaped like all popular surf style boards.  You can make soft rails if you want.  You can make the exact shape you’re doing now!

AND, we can make that board, so that it’s ready to ship in two days.  Not 16 hours of labor, but two days of elapsed time.

We’ll talk about the benefits to consumers in our next post on this build, maybe after we show some more of the Flyboy Wakesurf Mobile.

If you are still investing all of your resources into old school EPS, maybe it’s time you invest in yourself.  Maybe it’s time to look at using alternative methods and materials.

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May 25

The New Flyboy Wakesurf Mobile!

It’s always hopping around the Walker household. You go to bed with James owning 2 vehicles and wakeup with him owning 3! The newest addition to our parking lot, James’ new Flyboy Wakesurf hauler. You should see the huge stack in the bed of that diesel F350!

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Ok, so that isn’t what we wanted to share today, but we thought it was fun!

We’re going to jump ahead in our most current R&D build, not to worry we’ll go back and bring everyone up to date as we continue along. Here is a picture that will help us with the following dialog.

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As you can see we have the project in the vacuum bag and we are gluing on the rails. The core is a lower density material than the rails, but the takeaway is that we are working with all higher density closed cell foam. As we’ve mentioned before, the interior is an H45 grade Divinycell. This is significantly lighter than what skimmers use, but it is heavier than the more common 2 pound EPS that is used frequently in wakesurfers.

Here is the thought process. Ocean skimmers never really had bouyancy. They started with round disks of wood and then developed into high density foam cores. Principally they don’t paddle in or wait in the line up. Now here is something we should discuss. When folks are paddling in to an ocean wave, bouyancy helps in a few ways. First, hanging around out there WAITING is sure helped by a board that is more bouyant, as you can imagine. Another is that when you go to paddle a board, if part of it is OUT of the water, by virtue of bouyancy, it’s much easier to gain some speed. We’ve probably all experienced it. If you have an air mattress that is fully inflated and one that just has a little bit of air in it. The fully inflated one is easier to paddle around on. The under-inflated one you’re sort of plowing through the water. So bouyancy can really help on the take off to get the board hydroplanning.

So we obviously need that behind the boat! Think of how much paddling-in we do! Ok, we’re being sarcastic, the reality is that we’ve replaced paddling in with being towed in. The conditions out in the ocean which really dictate a need for bouyancy, don’t exist behind the boat. We don’t wait in the line up and the boat tows us up and into a hydroplanning position, we don’t paddle in.

Once you’re up and on the wave or wake, bouyancy has a very limited role in your riding. All you need to do is watch some YouTube videos of skim riders, behind the boat or in the ocean. Skimboards and skim style boards have very little buoyancy, we’ve done that floor scale test and documentation. There certainly is no lost performance due to reduced buoyancy. 

Skimmers don’t really need bouyancy either, if we conclude that attribute has almost no performance effect once you are hydroplanning.  Skimmers run along the baech and HUCK their boards into the flow, that running and hucking supplants the paddling in.  As such, higher bouyancy isn’t a NEED for skimmers. 

So why would we, as surf style riders, continue using that sort of weird construction? It sucks water, it dents and it’s prone to dings and all manner of problems. But that foam, the reason that is used is for the properties that WE don’t use!

Stop and think about that for a minute. The core of virtually all surf style boards is a poor choice, because the helpful attributes, what makes it useful in the ocean, we have circumvented by virtue of the sport, itself!

Boy that methodology isn’t cheap either. The blank can run $100 plus shipping and machine cuts, plus shipping to the CNC can add another $100. So as a builder they have $200 in direct costs before the blank even gets to them! AND it’s going to dent, be prone to dings and the material that is used serves no real purpose in wakesurfing. 

Remember the Closed System we were talking about yesterday? By just burying our heads in the sand and following that “same as it always was” path we wind up with a more expensive process, that is less durable and doesn’t add to the performance attributes of our boards. Looking in at that, it’s stupid! Certainly one of the joys of living in closed system is no one ever calls you stupid, because everyone else is JUST as stupid as you!!!!

Man, isn’t it time for a different material? One that is still just as light, doesn’t soak up water, doesn’t heel dent, isn’t prone to dings nor cost an arm and a leg. If the principal materials advantage for use in the ocean, isn’t applicable and it has all manner of drawbacks, including costs and poor durability, it’s time to say goodbye to that closed system and investigate options.

We understand that many popular shapers don’t have the skill to move beyond this material. They are heavily invested in the tech that isn’t really designed for wakesurfing, plus the cheerleaders that don’t know anything more than “hey check the graphic!” will keep that market going for years to come. Realistically, some new kid on the block with a knowledge of composites and materials is going to bring surf style wakesurf construction into 201X’s. Maybe, we’ll see sick videos come from that construction! We think we’ll take that first foray into changing the constructiion methodology and materials here at Flyboy Wakesurf. Not that we’ll have the final or best answer, but someday soon, someone will.

Thanks so much for following along, we really appreciate it!  Also have a great 3 day weekend, we hope that you enjoy the water and get a chance to do some wakesurfing! We’re going to take the three days off, so we won’t be back until Tuesday!  See you then.

 

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